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I have had these magazines on my store for over a year and they have just sat on the shelves.  The 6rd ones started moving recently and are now flying out of here.   This indicates to me this 870 Model has gained some traction.  I have not commented on it for Defense or Sporting use and will now.

For Sporting use the Model fits well.  The ability to unload the weapon easily and safely is a plus and capacity is not an issue nor is reloading fast.  

For Defense I am not interested in this model as the magazine adds another thing for Mr. Murphy to play his silly games with.   The tube fed 870 has a 70 year track record in Defense, Law Enforcement and Combat.  Keeping the gun clean, the magazine tube dry, working follower and a new magazine spring ensures feed.  Cleaning of the receiver and racking the damn gun like you gotta pair ensures chambering.   Adding a magazine to this makes me nervous and Mr. Murphy happy.

Also, as a HRT Member and Team Leader I trained with this weapon for many years.   We trained to max or tube out during use.   In one drill the Team Member would move from cover to cover. Upon firing two to three rounds ( which ever was called out for that drill) the Team Member would max out his tube or move to new cover and max out the tube.   This would be a hassle with a magazine fed shotgun as it would require you to remove your hands from the weapon and take more time.  

Now retired, I can not imagine a scenario where I will need more then a couple rounds of 00 to end the threat against me but being old and set in my ways I will never own the 870 DM

Remember the old song, " What's right for you might not be right for some" so I am giving my opinion what is right for me.  Others here might see other benefits of this model for the way they train to fight.  The model is getting popular so many are warming to it.  And it and 870 after all.

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I got to handle the 870 DM and its Mossberg counterpart a couple of years ago at the NRA Convention. I didn't see the point of them but as you say some people may love them.

In the last few months I have seen 870DMs on Gunbroker for very cheap. I wondered if the model hadn't caught on and everyone was trying to unload their supply.

If anyone on the board has one; what do you find about the magazine system you like and how do you choose to run it? One magazine with buckshot; another with slugs?
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I agree regarding the DM system, not that I can claim any previous background credibility. But to me, it’s more of the endeavor to make the shotgun into a rifle, while spoiling some of the shotgun’s advantages and gaining what? Perhaps the ability to reload to full capacity quicker when dry. Don’t let it go dry. And besides, who’s going to run their tube fed shotgun dry inside/outside their house????
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When I say keep the magazine tube dry I mean no oil as oil cause gunk build up and can get into the primer and foul the shells.   Also keep chamber dry, no oil or any chemicals as these cook off and cause sticky extraction.  I never put any oil or chemicals in my barrels and clean them with wooden dowel with a pad of steel wool stretched over it.  Only exception is long term storage and then I only spray some rem oil on a piece of paper towel and push it through the barrel with the dowel.
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Totally understand and agree JD... And when I said, “run the mag dry”, I meant it in the way of using up all the available ammo in it, not how it’s lubed or not lubed... 🤓
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I can see how there might be some use for a DM in an infantry or psudo--infantry squad, especially where heavy brush/foliage exists. Magazines are expensive, and I see some problems in other areas too. All in all, I would prefer a supressed SMG, but could make do with a SG if needed.

Otherwise, I agree with JD.

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I'm with you on the 870 DM JD. Might be fun to play with on the range I guess, but I don't really see any other use for them. If it works don't fix it.
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Don't forget that a large part of gun sales these days are strictly for range use, and that might be where these would come into their own.  Some 3-gun matches and tactical shotgun matches could certainly fit into a mag-fed shotty.
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Good point David.  I never considered Competition.  I am good with that Model as long as the magazines keep selling [rolleyes]
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Well you may being hearing this here first.   The 870 DM Models have been discontinued as they did not sell well and the Magazines have been discontinued.  So I can not get them.

Believe it or not I have yet to get my 2020 Dealers price list so when I order I get an order confirmation sheet that has my cost on it.  I placed about $15K in orders this month and have been taking the order confirmation sheets and updating my 2018 price list which the last one Remington issued.

So, I had no way to know the magazines were discontinued until they went flying off my shelves.  I removed the ones I had in stock and will wait to see what happens.

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Wow that was quick. Quite a few guy around here bought them on sale. I wonder if this move was more political than not selling well?
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Remington has a policy that if an item does not meet a minimum sales number for so many quarters in a row that item is discontinued.
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Remington has a policy that if an item does not meet a minimum sales number for so many quarters in a row that item is discontinued.


I had always wondered how they decided what to keep in the line and what to drop. Interesting ideas like the 7615 and 7600P seem to come and go.
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If you have an 870 DM and would consider calling me I have some questions.  I have never seen one and now that they are discontinued I am wondering about converting them to tube fed.

I simply need to ask about and see a picture of the Trigger plate assembly and the inside of the receiver.  I believe Remington would not change the receiver so there should be channels for the shell latches.  I also believe the Trigger plate housing is the same and could be converted.

Call me at 231-690-0954 if you can help me out with this info.   

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Just to a look at Remington's web. The DM is gone and I
also saw the home defence shotguns are back to the 2
piece magazine.
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