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vl5150

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I always like to get the opportunity to try something different so this is on my holiday list for my next range session.  Looks like a pretty unique pistol with lightweight projectiles moving around 1900 FPS and low recoil.  I can say the loadout of 130 rounds in a bug out bag is pretty light.  So if I can actually get to the range, I'll give a report on this one.

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Looks good!
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Is there much data out there regarding the lethality or effectiveness of 5.7X28 round that that pistol uses?...I could see it as a companion to the PS90 Carbine, and for someone who is traveling on foot the weight savings looks attractive.
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There's not a lot of data on it, but people seem to cite the Ft Hood shooting as to it's effectiveness.  The interNUTs seem to argue over the most trivial of details and then they get nasty over it so no consensus there for sure.
I checked all of the ballistic gelatin tests using the pistol on youtube and it seems that the bullet will pierce the first layer of whatever and then tumble at some point and not over penetrate. Some of the tests were very nasty, one was not so good. So it's probably more powerful than a .380, and maybe will do the damage of a 9mm?  As with any pistol shot placement will be important.

I'll have to get the scales out, but those 30 round mags are much lighter and more compact compared to my extended Beretta and Glock extended mags.  So the picture above with the mags is a 150 round load out and still super light.  

My personal EDC Glock 19x isn't going anywhere, but I found a zippered pistol case for the FN that I can fit the pistol and the 150 rounds of the loaded mags in along with a kydex holster.  If I have to bug out having that much ammo,that light, and that compact is very tempting.  I'll have to see how I shoot it.
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If one could source the ammunition type that was designed to penetrate body armor (so it has been said that the initial load offerings were designed for just that), that may be the way to go. If the currently available options on the open market are as effective as the 9mm, a lot can be said for the capacity of that platform. I think at that point it boils down to your own personal preference, and what works best for the individual circumstances you are working within.
You are 100% correct that shot placement is important. I've seen that lots in the real world.
I found a document case for job site materials at Home Depot, under the Husky line; it measures 12"X7.5", has a decent zipper, two interior compartments, and an exterior sewn on business card holder. The cost was $5, and seems plenty good for a discrete way to pack a handgun and some magazines. I was surprised it was that inexpensive, but so far it has lasted. I store a 1911 with five mags in one; you might check it out.
I'm very interested in how your shooting session goes.
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If one could source the ammunition type that was designed to penetrate body armor (so it has been said that the initial load offerings were designed for just that), that may be the way to go. 

Don't know if it is the way to go, but I can say the initial load was able to penetrate body armor.  I was at a LE firearms trainers event when the good folks brought a gun and ammo out to demo for us, let us shoot, get some feedback, etc.  IIRC it was pretty unanimous "NO" from the trainers when we saw zip right through a Level 2 body armor panel, which was probably the most common being worn at that time.  Went right through the vest and tore into the medium behind the vest.  General consensus was we didn't really want a handgun round in common use that would do that.  
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vl5150

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Of the 5.7 ammo, the SS190 is the steel core and is not available for sale to the public.  Although it pops up from time to time and it wouldn't be more expensive if it is made of solid gold.

The commercial SS197 40 grain hornaday blue tip and ss198 27 grain green tip from the pistol is not supposed to defeat level II.  The irony is the PS90 is armor piercing with commercial loads due to the NFA 16" barrel requirement giving it the extra FPS to do it.  I have an old vest around here somewhere and may have to try it out.

I still haven't shot it as I get too busy this time of year.  I'll try to do it this week.
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vl5150

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I took the 5.7 to the range before Christmas.  Love it.  It's loud, bright, and the slide violently moves back. But the recoil is almost nill.  I had a blast with it actually.  At 20 feet rapid fire I had deadly center of mass mag dumps as fast as I could pull the trigger.  It was so much fun I shot 250 rounds and was bummed I didn't bring more ammo- not too common for me.  Here's one of the mag dump pics I took pulling as fast as I could. As I moved the target toward the end of the range the groups didn't open up that much so the pistol is pretty flat shooting.  In aimed offhand, I didn't break out of the 10 ring in the same target below.


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