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Oldboy

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I said on a previous post that something new was going to follow me home. I may hav E underestimated the situation as i actually bought a couple of shotguns and now am going to hav E to thin the herd a bit.

The first is a Browning B525 Sporter One, which is going to become my 'Goto' clays and rough shooting gun. I already have a Nikko Shadow which I believe were made by Winchester and that will go to a nephew who is taking up clay shooting.

The above is really just an aside for the main subject of this thread, the main subject being a Wingmaster.

Its a later model with a flextab kit, side saddle, magazine extension ( though the crimp is still in place, big safety knob, Magpul stock and refinish.

Now, the negatives:
1. It's too heavy.
2. It still has a crimp.
3. I know I was going for the Magpul stock previously but I've kinda fallen on love with the classic blues steel and wood look since looking at forum member's shotguns.

So what am I going to do?

Well the beatshield is going to come off. It's not something I'm going to need and it spoils the balance.

After I have removed it, perhaps next week I shall take it to the local clays range and scare the locals.....

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It doesn’t look too bad. Is the receiver and barrel spray painted? Just asking because I noticed the scratch marks. Your Magpul furniture would look good on a nice blued receiver and barrel IMO.
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Your autocorrect tells me you like music, Oldboy. classic blues steel, beatshield. [wink]

The 870 is the one I'd use for 'rough shooting', but my definition is different from yours, I'd wager. 

Where's the pic of the 525? 

Kodensha made 101's for Winchester, the Shadow is just a 101 with the Nikko name instead.
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It doesn’t look too bad. Is the receiver and barrel spray painted? Just asking because I noticed the scratch marks. Your Magpul furniture would look good on a nice blued receiver and barrel IMO.


Good morning. Yes, it is spray painted. I'm going to have a detailed look at the weekend to see how durable the finish is.

The 'Beatshield' will be coming off and perhaps the side saddle at the same time. Unfortunately I don't have the trigger pins so i have a cunning plan to swap pins with the bloke who is taking these parts (a nephew).

To be honest I want to go for the blued and wood finish. I might be selling the stock and forend to the same nephew in order to reduce the overall cost of the shotgun.
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Your autocorrect tells me you like music, Oldboy. classic blues steel, beatshield. [wink]

The 870 is the one I'd use for 'rough shooting', but my definition is different from yours, I'd wager. 

Where's the pic of the 525? 

Kodensha made 101's for Winchester, the Shadow is just a 101 with the Nikko name instead.


Damn that autocorrect, it's such a giveaway! ;-) Yes. I listen to all sorts of music, though when questioned I normally reply with a quote from Them Good Old Blues Brothers Boys':
I like both kinds. Country and Western.....

Rough shooting over here is a non organised walk through fields' as opposed to an organised shoot where you might pay several thousand pounds to be a member of a Syndicate or pay a several hundred pounds to visit and shoot pheasant and then pay for each bird you shoot.

As for the Shadow shotguns, I was watching a video either by The Gun Shop or counteyway where they discussed the production of these shotguns" and I find myself intrigued by them as they seem well made and over here they are relatively cheap to purchase.

I'll put up some pictures of the 525 at the weekend.

Cheers!
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All those names you guys are using make me thing you are talking Greek.   Our Brothers across the pond play hell getting parts over there.   As a Dealer I can not help because of ITAR ( and because I'm totally confused by it)  but any members who read about them needing something and you have stuff laying around feel free to help them out.   We don't have many true allies around the world but we can always count on the Brits, always.
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So. An update.

The Magpul stock was sold for £130, leaving the cost of this Wingmaster at £170 (300 quid minus the 130 for the stock). I also took the trigger pins and spring latches from my nephew and gave him the side saddle and heat shield.

The finish was actually Duracoat. That has now been stripped off using an acetone bath. Messy but effective.. the shotgun now looks like a certain other members Wingmaster after he applied Remoil.

This shotgun is authorised for high capacity conversion. And now the snag. The local gun shop will not knock out the dimples on the existing magazine tube, nor can the get hold of a new unrestricted magazine tube. The Remington distributor in the UK doesn’t have them, nor can they get the. Neither can Brownells.

As much as I enjoy shooting, the frustrations of getting parts for shotguns or rifles over here does put a dampener on things.

There is a local gunmaker. I intend to have a word with him this week to see if he can fabricate a magazine tube. If he can, I will also ask him to hot blue or black the action at the same time.

Wish me luck!

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You do not replace the magazine tube as that is a Factory repair.  If not perfectly aligned the gun will not cycle properly.   You drill out the detents like in the below video.  Brownells deals in the UK and here is their UK address  https://www.brownells.co.uk/Shotgun-Parts/Magazine-Tube-Parts

Here is the video to modify the gun by drilling out the detents which is the correct way to do it.  



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So. An update.

The Magpul stock was sold for £130, leaving the cost of this Wingmaster at £170 (300 quid minus the 130 for the stock). I also took the trigger pins and spring latches from my nephew and gave him the side saddle and heat shield.

The finish was actually Duracoat. That has now been stripped off using an acetone bath. Messy but effective.. the shotgun now looks like a certain other members Wingmaster after he applied Remoil.

This shotgun is authorised for high capacity conversion. And now the snag. The local gun shop will not knock out the dimples on the existing magazine tube, nor can the get hold of a new unrestricted magazine tube. The Remington distributor in the UK doesn’t have them, nor can they get the. Neither can Brownells.

As much as I enjoy shooting, the frustrations of getting parts for shotguns or rifles over here does put a dampener on things.

There is a local gunmaker. I intend to have a word with him this week to see if he can fabricate a magazine tube. If he can, I will also ask him to hot blue or black the action at the same time.

Wish me luck!

I’m still not over that.
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You do not replace the magazine tube as that is a Factory repair.  If not perfectly aligned the gun will not cycle properly.   You drill out the detents like in the below video.  Brownells deals in the UK and here is their UK address  https://www.brownells.co.uk/Shotgun-Parts/Magazine-Tube-Parts

Here is the video to modify the gun by drilling out the detents which is the correct way to do it.  




Thank you JD.

I’ll pull it out of the safe tomorrow and have a look. If it’s that simple I might have a go myself, however it will still have to go to the proof house for a stamp once done.

A question if I may: the Brownells site does not list an 870 magazine tube. Would one from an 11-87 be the same size?
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Yes it is and also the 1100.  See you had to come across the pond to get solutions.   Us Colonist aren't all bad are we?[smile]
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Yes it is and also the 1100.  See you had to come across the pond to get solutions.   Us Colonist aren't all bad are we?[smile]


Not all bad, you lot wasted bloody good tea by chucking it overboard.... Sacrilege!😜
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Well, after a couple of acetone baths and much scrubbing the Duracoat is off the Wingmaster.

I've also been talking To a local gunmaker (!) Who going to reblue it for me.

He will also sort out the magazine tube.

JD, the restriction on this shotgun is a crimp that goes all the way around the tube rather than having the two indents.

Let's see how this ends up.

Oh yes, and the spring that keeps the cartridges in the magazine came off when I was lightly brushing out the crap from the insides of the receiver.

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Curious to see how this turns out for you.
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Curious to see how this turns out for you.


Believe me, you are not the only one!

Shotgun receiver and barrel were picked up on Monday.

Whilst the Gunmaker chap was in my attic we had a quick discussion on the fit of my Browning and I have some instructions there. I need a slightly longer length of pull and I need to move the trigger forwards slightly.

Whilst I'm doing that he will be carrying out the required work on the Wingmaster. Turn around time including sending the shotgun to the Proofhouse hot the Section 1 proofing stamp is around 3 weeks.

The work will be guaranteed so I'm fairly happy to let him sort it. I mean, he actually makes guns so he should know what he's doing!
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