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For years I have been telling people to drill out the detents on your Express magazine tube if you are adding an extension.  One idiot even posted after mine not to listen to me because you would then have two holes in the mag tube for dirt to get into. I replied back that Older Wingmasters have hole in that exact location at 12 o'clock as it is a air vent hole because you are forcing rounds into a tube and the air has to have a place to go.  I added that the end of the tube extensions also have a hole in them and recommended he have knowledge of a topic before he comments.  Besides the holes are under the barrel ring and act as air vents.

Extension manufacturers like Choate even have instructions including drill bit size and recommend drilling out the detents.   

When you beat on the magazine tube you can cause stress fractures in the braising where the tube is braised into the receiver.  Might not break but if cracked it will eventually break and you now have a factory repair as I have never met a gun smith who would take it on.  

Look at the below picture and you will see another issue.  Look at the swelling caused by the socket method.  That is now a factory repair.

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So, if you want to take advantage of my 38 years of working on the 870 and all the money I spend going to the factory every three years to recertify then drill the damn detents out.  If you choose to use the socket method and it goes bad I sell Receivers on my web site http://www.aiptactical.com and need the business.


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That’s a fine job right there! Both my 50 and 56 870’s have holes from the factory at the 12 o’clock position and they run fantastic. What’s gets me is you have a pro telling you how to go about a job and they still don’t listen unreal.
Interesting thought seems like there is never time or money to do a job right but there is always enough time and money to do a job twice.
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I like the way you put about doing a job right.
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I had a CO in the Navy who had a sign on his desk that read,
                                                                                                                                         No One Knows How Stupid You Are Until You Tell Them.

Why don't people look and listen before they mess up?
I was on another web site last night and a "proper tool"
was jammed in a magazine. I think some of the replies
came from outer space. As far as "proper tool' goes,
if someone makes it, someone will buy it and try it.

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Had the same thing recently happen on the Mosin forum. A guy posted saying his trigger pin was partially out and he couldn't get the bolt out. Easy fix I told him; get a long, thin flat bladed screwdriver, slide it under the bolt and depress the bolt stop, and slowly slide both out. Nope, didn't listen he DRILLED INTO THE SIDE OF HIS STOCK and pushed the pin out. [crazy] Then wondered why we got mad when he posted what he did. (It is a preservation-oriented site. Modifications are not discussed there) 
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Sadly, it is a pretty regular event.  Way too many people seem to think that some new guy with a new idea will magically be better than doing things the way some old guys have been doing old ideas for decades.  The reason the old guys have been doing it that way for a long time is because we have found it works.  Some just can't believe something that has worked for decades will work for them.  So be it.
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Is a drill press necessary for this or could it be done with a handheld?
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Hand held is fine as you are drilling out each detent separately.  
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Okay thank you
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