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RayInOK

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Anybody have experience with the Volquartsen steel extractor? It's a few $ more than the Rem upgrade. It certainly looks well made, whereas the Rem part looks a bit rough.
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I have no issues with the Remington MIM or the steel one.   The MIM extractor is perfect because it is molded.  It is chamfered perfectly and a perfect fit.   For years Remington could not find a decent vendor to make their forged extractor and they were horrible.   Finally a couple years ago they got it right and the forged extractor is close to the MIM specs.   

I was at the factory last June and asked who the vendor was that was making the Extractors and was told they don't know.   So I got to thinking.  Why would anyone make such a small after market part that seldom breaks nor wears out?   They wouldn't.   So I suspect the after market extractor you are asking about is from the same vendor that supplies Remington.   I have never seen one but that would be my bet. 

I have not purchased any 11-87 extractors lately but think I will order one to see if they have improved from being blocks with no chamfering.  Here is a picture to show what I am referring to:

From Left to right.   New 870 solid steel extractor,  MIM 870 Extractor, Old 870 solid steel extractor, 11-87 extractor.  So if that after market one looks like the first one then my guess is most likely correct.  But I guess the question would be,  what are you getting for the extra money?  I would say nothing as either of the two 870 extractors are perfectly fine.

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Well, that photo shows a different part for the Remington Steel extractor than the one on Midway's site:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/138720/remington-extractor-remington-870-12-16-20-gauge-1100-12-20-gauge-steel

Maybe Midway has a bad picture, or the WRONG picture.

Glad I didn't order the Volquartsen extractors yet.
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Midway, Brownells and most all the others are often wrong when it comes to Remington parts.   I however, am never wrong as it is about the only thing I know [smile]  I am unable to pull up Midways site to look at it but will later and post back in.

See how the new steel one looks like the MIM and is chamfered correctly?   They finally got it right.   The third one in the picture is the old one and very blocky and it puts a nice gouge in the side of your receiver.   That alone caused me to use the MIM in my own guns until a couple years ago when Remington found some one to make the first one in the picture.  I still use the MIM in my Hunting guns and would have no problem using them in my Defense guns.   But since I put the sloid steel one in my custom builds I should use it in my own defense guns as well.


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I looked at the link you posted.   The one they show is the old one.   I am guessing that is not what you get as they would send you a new one as they simply have not changed the picture on the item.   So I am absolutely 100% certain that if you bought the Midway one you would get the modern solid steel extractor as it is the same part and that item has been listed for years and they haven't notice it has changed so simply have not changed the picture.  I base this on they would have to be out of stock of the Old one and have getting the new one for past two years.


 I also looked at the picture of the Valquartsen and that is definitely not a factory one so they are not the Remington Vendor.   I see nothing that indicates it is any better then the factory one and worth more then the OEM Extractor.   If I am going to pay for a part to upgrade a gun it has to have some kind of quality that would make it perform better then the OEM.   If this was two years ago I would say yes but now the OEM is perfect and you can see in the photo that it looks like the MIM which is perfect also.

I will mention that a lot of people that have bought from certain places have need sent the 11-87 extractor and come to the forums with the issue and the Key Board Commando experts there tell the to file it down as they have no knowledge of the subject to tell the guy he is trying to put an 11-87 extractor in and 870 Breech Bolt.   Watch for that issue as it continues unless you get from Remington or someone who knows the difference.

I get constant request for this part and for the model 1100 carrier latch spring that is used in the 870 Police as the carrier dog spring.   The thing is this that spring was being used in the 870P as it was heavier then a standard carrier dog follower spring.   They made two back in the day, a standard one and a heavy one.   The heavy one is about the same as the 1100 carrier latch spring but silver.  about five years ago they discontinued the standard one and now only use the heavy one.   The difference between this and the black is minuscule but the 870 world wants those two parts for their non 870 Police models still.   I still upgrade my custom builds with them even though my competitors who also build on the Express never have.  I see no mention on Wilson, Night Hawk or any of the others that they change out those parts. 

I have never sold those two parts as they are some times had to get but with business being slow and the fact I am well stocked with them I think today I put the two as an upgrade package on my e-store http://www.tacticalgunslings.com in the category "Remington Parts".   They are certainly not a need but are proving to be a want based on the demand I get.

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