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A guy just bought this from his Local Gun Shop.  Got home put the barrel on and you can see what he saw.   The Local gun shop said they did not take returns and it was OK and simply an optical allusion.  Yea right.   He put his foot down and they took it back.  After he got home he had an e-mail from Remington Customer Service to send it to them and they would send him a new one.  

But how the hell did this even get out of the Factory?  Wake up Remington you are in bankruptcy and need to make the people in your factory understand their jobs are on the line.  This has to a defect receiver, so someone should have seen this, the Quality Control person should have seen this also.   

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Maybe searching for a new gun shop would be a good idea too.

Optical illusion? There is no way. 
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Maybe Remington is making carnival guns now?
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It could have been a prototype that got out of the factory by accident.  You know designed to knock down birds that take flight on the other side of a tree from where you are standing.
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Might be one of those new tactical entry guns that shoots around corners.
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Looking at the finish on the gun, it not an express.
So how does that work, the more you spend, the more angle you get?
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This is why I don't buy Remington. It's been par for the course for years, now.
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It’s a politician shotgun: as crooked as a dog’s hind leg!
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FWIW, it's not just Remington.  I don't know if it is due to increased automation or what, but the quality control thing is really haywire from a number of places.  It's like maybe they are so used to the guns being OK that they don't really look at them?  I've run across some where you just sort of go "how in the world did this get out of the factory without SOMEBODY noticing this?"
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There is a lot of bad things going on in American business and I'm not sure this is the place to talk about it but I'll point some things out and present the opportunity for guys to look into it elsewhere.

1) The Peter Principal.

 The selection of a candidate for a promotion is based on the candidate's performance in their current role, rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively and managers rise to the level of their incompetence.  

2) Parkinson's Law.  Parkinson's law is a reference to the self-satisfying uncontrolled growth of the bureaucratic apparatus in an organization.

3) The Dilbert Principal.  The Dilbert Principal refers to a 1990s theory stating that companies tend to systematically promote their least qualified employees to management (generally middle management), to limit the amount of damage they are capable of doing.

When these things happen master craftsmen get disgusted and leave the company.  Others get the "Cant do anything about it/Not my problem" attitude and the company makes a shoddy product.

When you have management suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect combined with the 'cut costs, increase profits" ethic the amount of damage they can do is appalling.  

Guys like me with dirty hands and sore backs laugh about it but after a while its not funny





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I guess all of those can come into play when production is down and quality control is poor.    Then there is the "Workers just don't give a shit anymore" Principle.
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So on these kind of business dealings like with Remington, I work for a company that has done this kind of stuff for the past 20 years. As a bystander to acquisitions, I've seen a pattern.  The standard playbook usually results in serious damage to the company being bought. In this case, Remington was in serious financial trouble before Freedom Group came along. I didn't look at the causes, but severe financial bleeding seems to be what it was. So the baseline is buying a company in bad shape makes this stuff harder.  Once acquired, the new company or investment group looks to try to squeeze every cent out of the company to recoup their investment as quickly as possible. If it's a corporation, they will usually look for quick wins to show growth in a quarterly report. So layoffs, skipping steps, combining sales, accounting, finance, IT, closing sites, etc is all on the table.  I'm sure the marching orders were to demand these cuts while increasing production.  For example, the barrel team was possibly directed to not polish chambers on express models or to skip the QC altogether. Managers of these depts either play along and adopt the changes or risk being shown the door.

I kind of like the idea to restructure, lower production, increase quality, and have good customer service.  But this isn't going to do anything for an investor's return on investment in the short term. Colt has kind of tried this and still had a another bankruptcy so hopefully the sweet spot can be found where customers are happy and the company is viable.


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