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 Will you drop down to a 20ga when you get older?
 I use a 20ga now 2 11%
 No, I will continue to use a 12ga 9 52%
 Yes, I will drop down to a 20ga 3 17%
 I will use another weapon 3 17%
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Getting older has all the stuff you think it does.  Things get heavier and you can't hold them as long as back in the day.   Recoil that was once assuring becomes punishing.

If you use a shotgun for home defense will you drop down to a 20 ga when you get older?

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I'm 73 and I bought one of JD's "plain Jane" 20 gauge shotguns a few years ago. I'm not weak or decrepit, but I feel more confident using the 20 gauge, especially on follow up shots. Just my opinion.
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Well, I dunno. 

I have a 20 gauge but the full size 12 gauge is not bad.  At least right now.  Those 3 inch #4 shot shells and even some of the 2.75 inch buck shells do wear on me now.  Maybe the low recoil 00 buck shells are in my future.

I don't think a armed confrontation with my shotgun is going to last more than a minute or two and I don't foresee myself chasing someone for 20 blocks trying to make my point.

You have given me food for thought though.  I need to spend more time at the range with shotgun in hand.  If I can get through a morning of sporting clays I'll be fine if things get ugly.


I'll be 56 this month so maybe I am old.
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56.  You are still a young buck.  My shoulders have been gone for years.  I was a dumb ass power lifter and I am paying for it now.  Shoulders, knees and even feet and wrist.   A 20ga weights about a pound less then then the same build in 12ga.  So it is easier to deploy.   Also HD can end up outside and the only time I have deployed a shotgun as a civilian was outside when my elderly neighbors called for help.   I am going to build my self a very light 20ga SBS as it is getting near time.   
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How that  weapon running Gary?  Hope you have some round count on it as they cycle slicker then eel snot after about 500 rounds.
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How that  weapon running Gary?  Hope you have some round count on it as they cycle slicker then eel snot after about 500 rounds.


JD, The gun has worked flawlessly from day one, but I don't have an accurate round count, so my best guess is somewhere between 800 and 1200. I know that's quite a spread in numbers, but my son-in-law and grandson take it to the range once in a while so that's the best guess I can make. I also have one of your 12 gauge HD Duty 2 guns that I bought about 6 years ago, and the round count on it is probably less than 1000, but I've never had a single problem with it. Great workmanship on both guns.

And just as a side note - I don't consider going from a 12 gauge to a 20 gauge as "dropping down", as it's merely a personal choice. Again, that's just my opinion.

Thanks, Gary
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I can't imagine having to drop down to a 20 gauge but I'm 48 so I probably don't have a dog in this fight yet
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78 and I am going to be buried with my 12 gauge.
If I go the wrong way, I may need it.

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I have the Enidine (now known as the "Crosshair" buffer tube???) recoil absorbing buffer tube on most of my shotguns, but in particular, my two "go to" AI&P 12 gauge shotguns.   At 61, I can shoot 25, or more, slugs or rounds of buck shot with no pain and no bruising.  The system works as advertised and while a bit pricey, it is worth the money if you want to comfortably shoot your 12 gauge shotgun."
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I did not address the lightness of the 20 gauge as mentioned by J.D., above.   That could be a factor for me in a few years.  However, that should, in my opinion, be viewed as a justification to buy more shotguns!   😉
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You are wise man Frosty as is any guy that can find a justification to by more guns.    I seldom if ever should a shotgun and when I do I use the recoil reducing stocks also.   I am planning on the 20 as a lighter faster to deploy HD.   I would go to any close quarters fight with an 870 20ga and never feel under-gunned.
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I'm already there due to injury.  I found even the 20 to be a bit rough for my demolished shoulder, so I moved to the M1 Carbine as my primary long gun.  If I felt the need to go to a 20 I would not have felt undergunned by any means, as JD said.  Within the traditional fighting range of the shotgun the 20 will do pretty much anything that needs to be done.
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I remembered a truth and one reason I'm on the board today.  I recently started making the 870 a primary HD gun while practicing and learning about them because I'm not nearly as good of a shot as I was before bi-focals and coffee became part of daily life.

In the 80's when you could buy a new Colt Python or S&W Model 27 I was a fair shot on a good day and thought that I could get myself out of a bad situation with such things.  I'm happy to say I never had to use either one although I did unholster my S&W 629 when walking the long way around a grumpy moose.

I read that within proper ranges a fighting shotgun has a 40% better hit probability than a submachine gun and so I got one and started to practice.  When I got the house in Nevada I ended up in a cul-de-sac at the end of a long street and the situation has good security because of the lay out but there could be a problem.

The street is long with only one way out and houses on both sides. At the end there is my house and the one across the cul-de-sac.  A 14 foot reinforced block wall surrounds the cul-de-sac so if someone is fleeing the police and turn down that street there are going to have some tough choices.  I believe a tall, superbly fit fleeing felon could get over that wall but everyone else is likely to force their way into one house or the other.

When the 12 gauge is too heavy to practice with the 2 round extension is coming off.  If I need a recoil reducing stock I will get one.  Low recoil 12 gauge shot shells have their appeal.  I have no problem with my wife's 20 gauge and feel well armed with it.  I think its a great choice.
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I am going to build my self a very light 20ga SBS as it is getting near time.   


I would be very interested in seeing it when its done.  Please post photos if you don't mind.
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I will.  However, since the Non NFA thing seems to be legal I will built that first on a virgin receiver of course so it is legal.  I will then SBS when ATF catches up because I don't like the idea of paying and waiting 6 months.
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